Thunderbird sync add-on
Mozilla Thunderbird sync point; I would love a add-on/plugin for Mozilla thunderbird to get my address book in sync.
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You are making things too complicated Michael,
Soocial IS the server. If you use these settings in the client you can use it to sync your contacts with Soocial.


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How about adding some kind of LDAP-(web-)interface to Soocial? In Thunderbird you can configure a LDAP-server for your contacts. So you don't even have to use an add-on (which may be forbidden to use in some environments...).
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Inappropriate?Hey Polle!
Being able to sync with Thunderbird is high on our list too! Thanks for the feedback!
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HOLY S****!! You're using the Funambol protocols/server/software. Totally Awesome. I've been using their my.funambol.com portal for almost 2 years now, but wish they had implemented some of these same features into their MobileWe. Is Soocial a part of their Open Source project development team or licensing their software/server? Is there someone that I could talk with in greater detail? -
Inappropriate?That already exists. Go to http://www.plaxo.com/downloads/thunde...
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This is true but the rub comes in that you can't run both Soocial and Plaxo on Outlook (not recommended by Soocial, duplicate issues) and Plaxo works very poorly with Gmail (one way Gmail to Plaxo only) when it works which is not that often from my experience. As a test I might resurrect my Plaxo Gmail link and use that but as I say at least for me Plaxo to any service like Yahoo or Gmail has been only so so. It does work pretty well when just Outlook, T-bird and for some reason MSN are in the mix. Thanks for the download link, I thought plaxo dropped support for T-bird because it does not show up on the dashboard where you add new connections. -
Inappropriate?I'm currently using Google Contact sync addon for thunderbird to sync my contacts between thunderbird and gmail. The link is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thun...
Hope that helps.
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Inappropriate?There is another add-on called Zindus that I have used for the last year or so. It too works quite well.
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Inappropriate?Regarding Plaxo
Plaxo is, in my view, not intended for syncing. Plaxo will mess up your gmail database. Plaxo likes to put all contact information in notes and put in their unique id for each of your contacts. Plaxo is good for keeping the contacts current but it does not behave well for Gmail.
My experience with Plaxo is about 1 year old so they have learned how to interact better with gmail since the release of gmail contacts api.
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Inappropriate?Thanks for the posts maybe one of these will work for me. I am still hope that Soocial makes one for the T-Bird because sync seems to work the best if a given device is only 1 step away from the sync hub. As soon as you get 2 steps away more errors and incompatibility issues pop up. Soocial caught my eye because they hope to support T-Bird and Blackberry's, both of which I use in addition to my core MS Outlook.
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Inappropriate?Why is this topic marked as if the company has already implemented the idea when they haven't done so yet? Either way, I also hope they'll add this option soon.
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Not sure if I understand what you are saying. But we agree we still have issues. We are working really hard to make things a lot better soon. The Thundebird solution might take quite a bit longer.... -
Inappropriate?Hi, are there any news regarding the thunderbird add-on?
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no news giukanis. Sorry.... -
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Inappropriate?Not yet Fredrik. Have you considered using our Gmail sync and then using a thunderbird extension to sync your contacts with your Gmail address book?
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If I would sync my contacts with Gmail - what would I need Soocial for? -
Inappropriate?How about adding some kind of LDAP-(web-)interface to Soocial? In Thunderbird you can configure a LDAP-server for your contacts. So you don't even have to use an add-on (which may be forbidden to use in some environments...).
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Thanks for the suggestion Stephan. This is probably not the direction we are going though. I would probably easier for us to support existing clients like Funambol. -
Inappropriate?Perhaps I just don't understand how Funambol works, but as I see it, the problem with Funambol is that one has to have access to a Funambol server, which means you have to have the means to setup your own server or you have to buy space on one. I though Soocial was trying to be the one-stop solution for syncing contacts. Requiring users to go through a third party application seems like a cop-out.
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Inappropriate?You are making things too complicated Michael,
Soocial IS the server. If you use these settings in the client you can use it to sync your contacts with Soocial.


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Inappropriate?I feel stupid. I had just figured that out before you replied and was framing my "duh!" response. The one part I couldn't quite figure out was the server name (that it was sync.soocial... ), but you beat me to it. Thanks!
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Cool Michael!
Please let us know if you find anything out of the ordinary. We did not test this a whole bunch. Make sure you have backups before you start syncing. -
Inappropriate?Well, my first attempt timed out after maybe half an hour and only 250 of ~400 contacts having synced (I'm trying to load all of my Soocial contacts into Thunderbird). I killed the connection and am trying a fresh sync again. Seems to be moving a lot faster this time.
One thing that jumped out at me of those that did sync is that email addresses did NOT show up in Thunderbird if they were marked as Work. Home and Other seem to make it, although the vast majority of these ended up in the "Additional Email" field of Thunderbird rather than the "Email" field (even if there was only a single email address for the contact).
There does not appear to be overwhelming consistency. Two contacts, both with a single email address marked Home, one shows up in the Email field, the other in the "Additional Email" field. The one thing I notice, however, is that within the Soocial web client, when just viewing the contact, the one whose email address shows up in Thunderbird's "Email" field does not have a label next to the email address. If you go into the edit screen for that contact, the email is marked as home, but this isn't showing up in view mode. The other contact does show "home" in the view mode, and in this case the email is getting put into the "Additional Email" field in Thunderbird.
In one case where a contact has two home email addresses, one marked as preferred within Soocial, the only one that showed up (in the additional field) was the one that is NOT marked as preferred. Not sure if Preferred is meant to prioritize syncing or not, but thought I'd mention it.
Some other issues. Some fields are occasionally truncated for no obvious reason, e.g., the zipcode for one contact is listed as "2770=" Why the last digit was replaced by an = is not clear. For most of the other ones I've scanned through, they appear fine, although I've seen other address fields which are similarly truncated. No obvious pattern at this point.
By the time I finished writing this the second sync had worked successfully. Well, successfully in that all Work emails were completely left out even if they were the only email address for that individual. Still looks like it needs some work.
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*dingdingding* Try again did the job. A typical M$-solution I almost forgot... -
Inappropriate?The good news is that as long as the client is actually syncing properly we should be able to fix most of these issues with fields/labels.
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Inappropriate?The funambol add-on does not work for Thunderbird 3 (yet). Assuming I'm not syncing with Google contacts, is there another way to sync with Thunderbird?
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ecognito, we did not have a solution until a few weeks ago when we started to support syncml1.2, I guess you have to wait for Funambol to start supporting Thunderbird 3. -
Funambol addon support to Thunderbird 3 is evolving rapidly. I use it already everyday on Linux. All developers are welcome to join and help the Funambol community team http://mozilla-plugin.forge.funambol.... -
Inappropriate?You can get a beta v1 of the funambol add-on for Windows that supports TB3 here: https://mozilla-plugin.forge.funambol...
Tested it out and functionally it works, but as with anything involving syncml I find the results to be half-baked. Missing a lot of fields, including email addresses unless they are marked as the "Home" (not "Work" or anything else) address.
Need something with more finesse (which is why I'm using Soocial to manage my iPhone contacts in the first place!)
Thanks for the feedback.
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cool we can play around with that ourselves then. See if we can make improve that behavior.
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Inappropriate?It sounds pretty much like the problems I reported with the TB2 client about two weeks ago (see above). E-mails marked as "Work" (on Soocial) do not Sync. E-mails marked as "Other" show up in TB as "E-mail". Emails marked as "Home" show up as "Additional E-mail". I also had some truncated fields, but there was no rhyme or reason that I could determine as to why.
I haven't installed TB3 yet on my primary computer because I'm waiting for a few more plugins to catch up, but I can re-test the behavior of the client with TB2 whenever necessary.
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You are right, that is what I am finding out too. The sync does pretty much behaves the way the former version did. We will dig in to it deeper soon and beat that sync in to submission more. -
Inappropriate?I have just switched from Plaxo/Nuevasync to Soocial today for a testdrive and hopefully permanently (Plaxo has discontinued the support for TB3 and is not allowing nuevasync to access their API)
I have approx 800 contacts. When I tried to sync TB2 with fonambul and the iphone (via your app) I noticed the same problem that Michael Rosenberg and stephan.sann wrote about.
Thunderbird 2 and Funambol The system starts fine, but then stops due to a network connection error.
10:36:34 GMT [DEBUG] Synchronization URL: http://sync.soocial.com
10:36:34 GMT [INFO] Preparing synchronization of contact...
10:36:36 GMT [INFO] [contact] Initializing all contacts...
10:36:37 GMT [INFO] [contact] Initialization done
10:36:37 GMT [INFO] [contact] Detected 798 items
10:41:36 GMT [ERROR] Server Failure: server returned error code 407
10:41:36 GMT [ERROR] Error in syncing: Server Failure: server returned error code 407
A possibly similar thing happened when trying to do the same thing from the iPhone. (no logs there unfortunately) After a random time amount, during the process a unspecific "Network Error" appears and the sync is logged as not completed. After restarting the sync process a couple of times, it finally "made it through"
Could this be the same bug?
I’m hoping this is an easy fix.
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Inappropriate?I'm a little confused. I'm trying to share contacts across Thunderbird, Gmail and Blackberry, and share them with my assistant (i.e. to her Thunderbird and Gmail accounts too). I'm currently using a combo of Zindus and Google Sync, which sort of works but isn't shareable, and is horrible to edit, so my contact list is full of duplicates and partials. We have several hundred offline addresses in my lovely dusty old copy of Lotus Organizer which I'm not happy to bring in until everything connects. Soocial looks great for the Gmail to Blackberry piece, and to allow us to share between Gmail accounts.
What do you recommend I do to bring Thunderbird into the loop? Stick with Zindus and install it on Sarah's PC too? Go to Funambol using the mechanism you describe here? Or wait (how long?) until you have something that does the job in one step?
In case it makes any difference, our mail server is on my network server in Exchange, but we always access it through Thunderbird and we're allergic to Outlook.
It would be really useful to have a recommendation from you.
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The Funambol Thunderbird plugin should work fine hillyjan. Could you just try and see if it does for you? -
Inappropriate?Hey I am trying funambol, but it doesn't work for TB3. Could you help us writing to funambol so they may able to update the system?
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You can find a Funambol plugin compatible with Thunderbird 3.0 at this URL: https://mozilla-plugin.forge.funambol... -
Except that BETA plugin is only for windows. No Mac yet. -
Thunderbird 3.0 has the ability to read from native address book on a mac (although you can't edit or create new contacts) -
Tiago, excellent customer service would have ben providing a link on how to do that correctly.
OK, so now we know it's possible. However, now we have to go find out how for ourselves! -
IcI, you don't have to do anything. It just does. If you take a look at the Thunderbird Address Book you can see it shows the native address book as well. -
Inappropriate?Even if you have Windows, the funambol beta plugin for TB 3.0 is extremely buggy. It crashed TB every time I tried to send an email (and from looking at the forums, I'm not the only one who experienced this problem)
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I'm using Thunderbird 3 on Linux and Funambol sync addon and I have not experienced any crash. Windows version needs more developers helping out. If you know anybody tell them to join the team http://mozilla-plugin.forge.funambol.... -
Inappropriate?There is a x86 Linux build available here https://mozilla-plugin.forge.funambol...
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HOLY S****!! You're using the Funambol protocols/server/software. Totally Awesome. I've been using their my.funambol.com portal for almost 2 years now, but wish they had implemented some of these same features into their MobileWe. Is Soocial a part of their Open Source project development team or licensing their software/server? Is there someone that I could talk with in greater detail? -
Well technomensh, we are not. As Soocial we have made our own Syncml server. As you know Funambol is based on Syncml too. We try to support as many service and services as possible and at the moment do a pretty good job supporting the Funambol plugin for Thunderbird. We do not use any Funambol software ourselves, but are exited about the possibilities for our users. -
Inappropriate?Finally got this working using the Funambol plugin version 1.0b3. I still think Soocial needs a Thunderbird plugin but as long as the Funambol plugin doesn't crash things again, it's not that important to me.
One issue I have noticed though, is that my GMail contact groups get synced to Soocial, but they don't make it over to Thunderbird. Is there a way to make these groups sync to Thunderbird?
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Nevermind, it started crashing again. Soocial needs its own Thunderbird extension. -
Inappropriate?I whish that Soocial developers would contribute and help improving the Funambol Thunderbird addon.
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That would be awesome smafulli. Now to find time... -
Inappropriate?Michael, groups are not implemented in the Funambol client. If they would I don't think it would be possible to properly integrate them in to Thunderbird anyway.
Smafulli, If we would have the resources we would love to. We have chosen to support a whole bunch of other services and devices. Most of them still have issues that we are working on. If we can tweak our servers to properly support the Funambol clients we are most willing to do it. But actively developing the Funambol client is not what our goals are at the moment. Although we would love to, we have to choose what to focus on. One of the reasons is, that Thunderbird is not as wide spread as lots of other connections that we do support. -
Bart: no need to explain. We're all tight on resources and I perfectly understand your choices.
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